( - SegmentDebate in Santa Maria, 9 August 1996)

Moderator;       We have drawn lots- … uh- for the order in which the candidates would speak. …  It came out- uh- Steve Wheeler was first, … Walter Capps is second, … Andrea Seastrand is third, … and David Bersohn was fourth. …  The rules are going to be that each candidate has up to:: … ten minutes. … to speak. ((interrupted))